At the 2020 FORBES WOMAN AFRICA Leading Women Summit in Durban on March 6, for the first time on the same stage, South Africa’s minister Dr Naledi Pandor and her entrepreneur-daughter Dr Aisha Pandor revealed their secrets to continued success.



It’s not often we get to witness a famous mother and daughter on the same stage sharing their lessons on success and legacy. And this duo was certainly doing so for the first time.



At the 2020 FORBES WOMAN AFRICA Leading Women Summit in Durban, South Africa, on March 6, Dr Naledi Pandor, the country’s Minister of International Relations and Cooperation, and Dr Aisha Pandor, CEO and Co-founder of SweepSouth, engaged in a stimulating and thought-provoking panel discussion titled ‘How To Raise A CEO’.



“Thank you very much to FORBES WOMAN AFRICA for the opportunity to be here with Aisha. I don’t often get a chance to see her. So it’s lovely to see you Aisha,” opened the much-loved minister, to laughter from the audience in the large ballroom at the international convention center in Durban.



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The panel’s moderator Gugu Mfuphi began with a comic disclaimer that Dr Naledi has four children and that Dr Aisha is certainly “not the favorite”. As the audience lapped up the moment, the minister, with a broad smile, shook her head in disagreement, saying: “They are all my favorite!”



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There was more laughter and life lessons in store, as the audience got to see the lighter side of the minister.



“As a mother, what I tried to do is nurture her where she wished to grow, but also, to encourage her to have as much experience in a range of areas as possible. We would encourage academic work. We also encouraged sport, creativity; all my kids had to do speech and drama at school, it was very clear – just nurture them in a wide range of things. I think that’s really important,” said the senior Pandor.



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While she mapped out her daughter’s career path, she later came to an important realization.



“She was really good in science. I love science but I’m bad at it. So I thought ‘God gave me Aisha, she’s going to achieve you know, because she was good at math and science’. And so she did very well at school, and went into the science faculty, did very well at the undergraduate level, was invited to carry on with an honors degree. She did very well and was asked to proceed to her Masters prior to finishing the honors. So, I was over the moon. It’s my dream, right? She continues from Masters into the PhD track, and completes her PhD with much fanfare and celebration on our part because now I’m thinking ‘here’s our senior research partner’. All these things I’ve been talking about science and technology, my child is going to live the example. Well lo and behold…”



The minister went on to offer more life-changing anecdotes about her daughter.



“One day, Aisha comes with her husband – who happens to be a software engineer – they tell us about this plan they’ve cooked up; that they’re going to start this tech start-up. And so I say to her ‘what about your research career?”. And she goes ‘this is what I want to do”. I say ‘what, but you’ve got a PhD, you could be a professor at the University of Cape Town, what are you talking about?’ And she says, ‘no mom, we’ve designed this program, we’ve started our company’. They began to tell me and her father all about it. Both of us were livid. I must tell you we thought ‘these kids are going to be a problem for us, they’ll be coming to beg for money and everything’. Few years down the line, and here we are! I’m very proud of her. I’ve learned my lesson. Let your children go where they wish to go!”



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Aisha, along with her husband, learned quickly that being a CEO will require significant sacrifice.



“I lived with my parents for probably four years after starting our business. We eventually ended up selling everything we had, to fund the business,” she said.



“Our parents brought us up to have the right moral compass. Education and the idea of learning and knowledge have been very important. My parents gave us freedom in the decisions we made based on the fact that they knew they had given us that grounding.”  



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<h3>Aisha Pandor, 31 
Founder, SweepSouth</h3>
With Aisha Pandor’s down-to-earth demeanour, you would never guess how much she has achieved at such a young age. Her tiny physique is just as deceptive. She was the Vice Chairperson of the Karate Club in 2006 at the University of Cape Town, where she completed her PhD in Human Genetics.
Pandor, the daughter of South Africa’s Science and Technology Minister, Naledi Pandor, and Sharif Pandor, received the David and Elaine Potter Fellowship and the South African Women in Science Award for her thesis on retinitis pigmentosa, a type of hereditary blindness, and research on a therapy that may cure other hereditary diseases.
Because she has powerful parents, some might feel Pandor’s achievements were handed to her.
“My mother was the minister of science [when I received an award], but she had become the minister of science after I started studying science. My mother didn’t write my thesis for me. I sleep four hours a night; my mother doesn’t sleep for four hours doing my work. I work incredibly hard,” says Pandor.
“My parents were activists and teachers. I didn’t grow up rich but I have parents who believed in empowering their children. It’s the nature of the upbringing, I feel, that put me at an advantage, not the label behind my mother.”
In 2013, Pandor dumped her management consultant job to start a business with her husband, Alen Ribic, who is a software developer. They formed SweepSouth, an online service that provides domestic workers and cleaning products at the click of a button.
The business had a rocky start with no external funding for more than a year, forcing Pandor to sell her house and car.
“I had a negative bank balance multiple times. I have a child and I was honestly worried if I was going to be able to pay school fees, and you can’t keep asking family to help you. There were times, from an emotional point of view, where I felt like I can’t do this anymore,” admits Pandor.
She eventually got funding after pitching the business to angel investors at a conference in Cape Town. In June last year, the couple spent four months in the United States after being selected to join a business accelerator program offered by global venture capital seed fund, 500 Startups. SweepSouth has created thousands of job opportunities for women, the vast majority of whom were unemployed.
After successfully navigating her way past various pitfalls, Pandor wants to be a role model. She wants to mentor young South African women who want to clean up with their businesses.
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