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Business in Africa has never been rougher, drop your guard for a second and chances are the new kid on the block will poleaxe you with a right hook. Just ask entrepreneur Adrian Gore, the founder of the $6.5-billion Discovery Limited, who built his empire by turning the health insurance industry on its head.

Now Gore has set his right hook on the banking industry with the launch of a $105-million bank. Just another day in the life of a man who takes a look at a market to see how he can disrupt it.

“It’s been a remarkable 25 years. It doesn’t feel like it. If you build a business and find the organization ages better than you do, then Discovery feels brand new… We are always immersed. No one is sitting here in the boardroom drinking cognac thinking about the past. We are humble because we are building, it’s like day one here,” says Gore.

Gore is seen as an innovator in Africa with plenty to say. This vision has seen the self-taught entrepreneur, and actuary by profession, work his way to a $522 million fortune. It’s a far cry from 1992 when Gore was the hungry new kid on the block tying on his gloves in the far corner.

“It started out as this anecdotally opportunistic idea, and as soon as we did it we knew, s*** this is big. This has got great potential.”

The key to Gore’s success was the idea to reward people for looking after their bodies.

“Health and life insurance are typically grudge purchases. Our fundamental success in this market has been making health insurance sexy, cool, accessible and different,” says Gore.

These days, one in every three South Africans put their money down in the hope of reward. It’s made Discovery the largest supplier of medical aid in the country.

This is just the beginning of a global network that has expanded into 16 countries, including the United Kingdom, United States, Singapore and Australia. Ultimately it leads to one thing: making 10 million people healthier by 2018.

I believe that it is often during moments of difficulty that the best ideas emerge. Times of crisis can often lead to progress, and hard economic times can be a catalyst for positive change. When we started Discovery in 1992, the country was in a state of political turmoil. We saw an opportunity to create a business that could positively impact the healthcare system and we found a way to move forward.”

BANKING ON DISRUPTION

If you want to bank on something, it should be on Discovery disrupting business. Now Gore believes he can do the same in banking.

“We don’t disrupt for the sake of it. We don’t sit and think ‘how do you disrupt?’ Most markets are not based on behavioral issues. They are not based on the model we’ve developed, so when we come in and we do it right it, by nature, is disruptive,” says Gore.

Adrian Gore (Photo by Jay Caboz)

In 25 years, Discovery’s share price on the largest bourse in Africa, the Johannesburg Stock Exchange, has gone from R10 ($0.70) to almost R150 ($10.40) – an inflow of shareholders’ money that is helping Discovery Bank Limited take advantage of its new banking license. It could be open as early next year pending the Competition Commission’s approval.

“We’ve never made an acquisition here, everything here has been organic. We’ll probably invest, in total, by the launch, R1.5 billion ($105 million). It’s a considerable build,” says Gore.

In Africa’s economically challenging times, everyone is looking for better ways to save their hard-earned bucks.

“We’ve been working on it for two years now, with a good team and very strong people… it’s not an easy thing to do. I’m not sure there is an excellent time to do it. I think it will take a decade long to develop something that has materiality in that space… We came to the conclusion, given our technology and being given the ability to start our own legacy, we said let’s start it slower and proper.”

Gore is playing his cards close to his chest. He has said little about how he intends to integrate banking with his other businesses. What we do know is that he will set his sights on the rising middle class.

At the center of it all is his team of Apple-watch-wielding actuaries, who will also need to come up with something so that the business can stand out in the crowd. It’s a tough crowd too. The territory is already held by heavyweight banks who’ve been there for generations, like Standard Bank, Absa, FNB, Nedbank, and Investec. They also want to modernize and make use of big data.

“We’re not going into a weak market where the banks are useless, that they need to be shaken up. I don’t believe that at all. My sense, anecdotally, I think they are worried. I think they think we will be disruptive. I think they have a healthy respect for us. But there is no panic here. No hubris here,” says Gore.

“We’re going to target the mass affluent. We’re going where our customers are. So it’s pretty broad. It goes from a fairly low LSM to a high one. Our approach is not to focus on [the banks]. We need to focus on our customers.”

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The bank has got a lot of people talking. As South Africa grapples with its rocky economy, that faces possible ratings downgrades which could send stock prices tumbling, the markets are looking for something to shake things up, says Michael Treherne, a portfolio manager at Vestact.

“The banking sector is ready for disruption. Capitec has done this for the lower LSM customer base and Discovery will be looking to use their huge database on behavior traits to disrupt the top-end LSM. As the saying goes though, the proof is in the pudding,” says Treherne.

“They offer a product that is unique globally. Their massive database is the moat between them and competitors. Also, their white-labelling strategy of selling their intellectual property and not needing to put in capital upfront means they can grow very quickly.”

Over the long term, Treherne believes Discovery will be able to weather the storm.

Another market commentator, Chantal Marx, Head of Research at FNB Securities, also backs the company.

“[Gore] is the ideal guy to be at the front of the businesses challenging the status quo and changing the face of insurance…They have revolutionized the way companies see their clients. I think they will compete with banks like Investec and the private banking offerings by the big four. If they can get people to be sticky and put their entire financial portfolio together, it’s where Discovery will make their money.”

The only problem, Marx says, is Discovery is seen as pricey.

“The expectation of growth relative to someone like Sanlam doesn’t justify the premium. But I think investors are willing to pay a little bit more for their innovation slant.”

Meanwhile, Gore backs himself by having no investments other than his shares in Discovery.

DINNER TABLES

From a young age, Gore learned business by doing.

“Ironically [my father] was a tobacconist wholesaler. He would sell cigarettes and candies between wholesalers and stores. I remember as a kid having to pack cigarettes, I remember all the brands, Lexington and Rothmans, and having to take them out to the café owners. It was actually an interesting business because as time went on the margins got squeezed and wholesalers started supplying to businesses directly.”

“[My father] is essentially an academic at heart. He hated business. When he retired he went and did a bunch of degrees. He never stopped learning, so I grew up with a belief that knowledge and learning is more important than anything.”

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From his mother, Gore learned to push himself towards the intellectual forefront. He grew up in a household where discussions around the dinner table involved questioning the ‘way things are’.

“You never kind of accepted that that was how it is and that’s the way it’s expected to be. In my own journey, my own career, it’s been one of my biggest assets; don’t take things at face value. I just don’t.”

“My parents are not essentially commercial people. They are not excited by scale or profit. They are excited by values and doing good,” says Gore.

BUILDING ON BEHAVIOUR CHANGE

Building healthy lifestyles has been the key to Discovery’s success. Under Vitality’s Shared-Value Insurance model, Discovery rewards clients that regularly go to the gym, eat their vegetables and do their medical checkups. Clients are then given free smoothies and discounts on healthy food, cheap flights, and Apple watches.

The model was born in 1992, when the Health and Racquet Group, who later became Virgin Active, approached Gore to see if they could cross-sell into their base. Gore and his team came back and said why don’t we give people health miles and reward them for living healthier lifestyles with discounted memberships.

“Discovery’s entire investment case is premised on that one brilliant original idea which is Vitality. If you look at Vitality, what it basically did was revolutionize the way insurers look at their clients and the way they made risk on their book… What Vitality did is essentially place the risk management outside of the company and what the actuaries do and put it in the hands of the insurers they are insuring,” says Marx.

“Suddenly they have a better persistence; people aren’t lapsing their policies or moving around. They’ve got sticky clientele who are living longer, happier lives. So, the amount of claims they have to pay out are less on the medical health side and on the life insurance side the longer someone stays alive the better it is for the company, because they can continue to invest and build on their investments.”

Two aspects enabled the success of the model, says Gore. The first is technology, the second is understanding risk is behavioral.

What Vitality has become is unexpected. Gore says it is now the world’s largest scientific, incentive-based wellness solution – this is all thanks to terabytes of data its users send every time they update their apps.

Vitality Active Rewards has found that those that use the app increase their exercise levels on average by 24%, and those using Apple Watch increase their activity sustainably by an average of 81%.

“When I started out, companies had mission statements like ‘we endeavor to make shareholders rich’. Our idea was of making people healthier. We were seen as being mad. But today we see now, since 2008, a sense of purpose is what appeals to people,” says Gore.

“In our case, there is a massive spend on technology. A lot of it is on enterprise stuff, the core. In the case of Vitality we have invested hugely in technology to be able to globalize it.”

Utilizing innovative technology has become the forte of the Discovery team. Underpinning this is using big data, which Gore admits to being skeptical about.  

“I don’t think data in and of itself is this nirvana. I mean using A.I. and machine learning, it’s powerful stuff, but it’s the application. The shared-value model, I think, is where we are powerful. I think it’s the DNA and it understanding it through the data, and sharing how people respond is a very powerful thing,” says Gore.

“A.I., without romanticizing it too much, has given us the ability to crunch the data, without upsetting the hypothesis. Overseas we are learning more and more how to use it. In the UK we are using it to help with our pricing,” says Gore.

HUNTING CHINA

In a world where Africa is China’s happy hunting investment ground, Gore is heading the hunt in the opposite direction. With 3.7 million customers in China, Discovery has a 25% stake in Ping An Health Insurance, the country’s largest private health insurer; 2016 saw membership grow by 428%.

“The growth is staggering. It’s something we’ve never seen before. I still think it’s early. These things take seven to 10 years. It takes time. Ping An’s relationship is seven years long, and it’s beginning to expand rapidly. Literally the last years, after we figured out the distribution channels, it’s been hugely successful,” says Gore.

“This is a massive industry in China. Ping An itself is the gold standard in China. Today it’s the most powerful and biggest insurer in the world.”

Adrian Gore (Photo by Jay Caboz)

Gore’s confidence stems from the Chinese government’s plan to introduce privatized health reforms.

“We’ve typically gone into developed markets that have been commoditized and disrupted them; it’s our natural target. It’s slower going, it takes time. Ping An is more pioneering, it’s a market that’s growing, the middle class is emerging. Healthcare is becoming a bigger and bigger issue. So I hope we can continue that trend.”

In just 12 months Vitality Active Rewards, with Ping An Life, has reached 2.4 million members. To give a sense of scale, Discovery now has more people signed up in China than in South Africa.

“China remains a huge growth market, with the estimated total healthcare spend expected to rise by over 90% by 2020. Private healthcare spend is expected to grow even stronger over this period,” says Gore.

Discovery has found it difficult to take on the rest of Africa. This is mainly due to the lack of infrastructure and established private healthcare.

“The insurance space in Africa is very underdeveloped and your insurable population is small relative to the population at whole. You need to be careful about which markets you are entering in. For Discovery, it makes much more sense to invest in developed markets where you have broadband capability and most people have a smart device so that you can afford a wearable,” says Marx.

E-HEALTH LEAPFROG AND ITS CROAK

eHealth, could be the massive opportunity where private infrastructure can help solve Africa’s shortage of doctors. Africa, Gore believes, can short-circuit the shortage of doctors and expensive technology by supplementing them with eHealth developers working on apps to treat patients.

“I think we are sitting on the cusp of eHealth starting to do stuff. Through the smartwatch being able to track things more accurately, there is a whole world of stuff that’s happening,” says Gore.

Disruption has the ability to leapfrog older technologies; especially when it comes to cellphone reach in Africa. Those with keen eyes of innovation can spot ideas and gaps in the market, and create unique solutions to Africa’s needs, while at the same time being exportable.

“The interesting thing in healthcare is we haven’t seen technology bring prices down, in fact we’ve seen prices go up. A new biological drug is discovered and the prices go up… Everyone is carrying smartphones around. The ability to give care out on this basic level is an amazing opportunity,” says Gore.

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Of course the health industry in his own country faces its unique challenges. The private healthcare industry is anxious to resolve the uncertainty of the South African government’s National Health Insurance (NHI) and its impact on the private sector.

The government claims 80% of South Africa’s population, that’s 40 million people, can’t afford medical aid. Their reality is waiting in massive queues from sunrise to sunset in the hope of seeing a doctor. All this while the other 20% of the people, who can afford medical aid, are treated by 70% of the country’s doctors.

“From our perspective, getting an NHI that bridges the gap and does everything that it needs is crucial. We’ve been involved where we can. I am hoping we can overcome the chasms that are between public and private healthcare.”

Many fear the NHI could be the tipping point for the country’s health system, forcing doctors to emigrate.

“It’s in a complex place at the moment, while the policy details are set and we are going along a process that is right. The details are not clear. I think funding issues are going to be critical. We don’t have the money to fund the kind of services that we need,” says Gore.

Something that could even disrupt the disruptor.

Adrian Gore (Photo by Jay Caboz)

‘You Could Immediately See This Guy Was Different’

In 1992, Adrian Gore raised seed funding from Laurie Dippenaar, the cofounder of FirstRand, and founded the South African medical insurer after years of working with Liberty Life. Dippenaar, who is on the FORBES list of the 40 Richest Africans, was the man who gave Gore his shot.

“You could immediately see this guy was different. He was not the typical chartered accountant nerdy smart. You could see he had intelligence but he also had business sense, all the qualities that make you a success. I think he is actually one of the smartest businesspeople I have ever met,” says Dippenaar.

According to Dippenaar, Gore’s first pitch didn’t go well. His life insurance scheme sounded too much like all the others.

“To this day he says I got it wrong. A year later he comes up and says he’s got something completely different. From life insurance he had gone to a health insurance. He started to describe what he had in mind and I could immediately see he was onto something.”

This something was Discovery.

“When he described that medical savings account, it was a pioneer move in South Africa. I remembered when I was a bachelor and paying all these premiums for health insurance. You are young and healthy you don’t need to claim. All you do is pay premiums. Here was a product where you could carry forward some of the premiums if you were not claiming. In theory you could get into a situation where you didn’t have any premiums to pay,” says Dippenaar.

Gore left his job and Dippenaar gave him three months to draw up a business plan, in Dippenaar’s own offices.

“He never had any hesitation. He came up with the numbers. We liked it. So we backed him,” he says.

The rest is history.

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Pioneer For Women In Construction Thandi Ndlovu has died

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The cover of the August (Women’s Month) edition of Forbes Africa beautifully captures the essence of the woman I interviewed only a few weeks ago. Gracious, soft-spoken, brimming with life and energy. Dr Thandi Ndlovu impressed the entire Forbes crew on that afternoon cover shoot with her broad smile, and open yet powerful demeanor.

It is with great sadness that Forbes Africa heard of the accident that took her life on Saturday the 24 August 2019.

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She had given so much to South Africa and its people – through the apartheid years and during the 25 years of democracy, literally building a better future, first through her medical practice at Orange Farm and then through her company, Motheo Construction Group and the scholarships for tertiary education granted by her Motheo Children’s Foundation.

That sunny winter’s afternoon, I asked her if she, at the age of 65, was considering retirement, and she laughed. A lively, amiable laugh. She told me she was healthy and strong and easily worked 12 to 13 hour days.

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She loved hiking, and has climbed Kilimanjaro twice, reached the base camps of Mount Everest and Annapurna in Nepal. At the time of the interview, she was training to climb Machu Picchu, the famed ruins in Peru’s mountains.

One of her biggest passions was to make a difference in people’s lives and to motivate people to achieve the best they could. The other was to redress the racial tensions that still remained in South Africa.

Dr Thandi Ndlovu, South Africa is poorer for your passing.

-Jill De Villiers

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Thandi Ndlovu and Nonkululeko Gobodo, moulded by South Africa’s apartheid past, tore their way into male-dominated sectors , leading them boldly through a quarter century of democracy. Failure was never an option.


On a sunny winter’s afternoon in a quiet suburb of Randburg in greater Johannesburg, a second white Mercedes-Benz pulls up in the driveway of a photographic studio, and finds a shady spot to park.

Already seated next to a pool glinting blue in the sunlight, an elegant woman dressed in black and white sips green tea and talks about her early life growing up in the former Bantustan of Transkei in South Africa.

Absorbed in recounting her story, she looks up as a tall, slender woman, also in a chic black and white ensemble, walks towards her. The two women beam in recognition. They are here to be photographed by FORBES AFRICA and to share their unique stories as businesswomen in two traditionally white male-dominated sectors – auditing and construction.  

This year, South Africa celebrates 25 years of democracy. As the country started shaking off the shackles of oppression in the 1990s, both these women embarked on their paths to greatness. Both had been moulded by the harsh final years of apartheid, gaining the strength and conviction to fight for what they believed in.

In the process, they built successful businesses, changed perceptions and became role models.

And as with all stories of achievement, their journeys came with times of adversity.

Nonkululeko Gobodo. Picture: Motlabana Monnakgotla

Nonkululeko Gobodo: The visionary in auditing

 As a young girl, Nonkululeko Gobodo had very low self-esteem. She was shy and quiet and as the middle child in a family of five children, she felt overshadowed by her very outgoing older siblings. Her mother made it clear that she thought Gobodo wasn’t “going to amount to anything”.

Yet, there were factors in her upbringing, at home and in her community, which shaped her and prepared her for a future as a captain of industry.

Her mother was very hard on her. “I’m someone who needs affirmation and she did the opposite of what I needed. Fortunately, my father was doing that, he was doing the affirmative things.”

As an educator, her father was excited when she achieved “goodish” results at school, even slaughtering a sheep in celebration.

“When my parents were running shops, I used to be the one who would help in running the shops during the holidays. And I was quite young to be given the responsibility. My mother was literally taking a holiday, and I would run the shop perfectly, no shortage or anything like that. So, in spite of the fact that she was too hard on me, she must have thought she was nurturing this talent and making me strong.”  

Growing up in the then independent Transkei (now the Eastern Cape province of South Africa), Gobodo was largely sheltered from the impact of apartheid in other parts of the country.

“I lived in this world where you were sort of cushioned from what was happening in South Africa. So you were socialized to be a fighter, to be strong. My parents used to say that we should never allow anybody to tell us there were things we cannot do,” she elucidates.

It was an everyday thing to see black people running a variety of formal businesses like hotels, garages and wholesalers.

“I suppose I was very fortunate in that I was raised by these parents who were in business, who were working very hard during those times and with very strong personalities, both of them. Within the Xhosa tribe itself, although there is patriarchy and all that, Xhosa women are very strong and they are sort of equal partners with their husbands.”

Still very young, Gobodo fell pregnant. Her parents insisted on marriage. The marriage would end several years later, after the birth of three children, when she was 34 years old.

While taking a gap year working at her father’s panel-beating shop in Mthatha (then Umtata), during her first pregnancy, Gobodo discovered her calling. While her parents thought she would be well-suited to a career in medicine, she found joy in accountancy.

The gap year also revealed her innate strength to stand up for what she believed in. For the first time, she encountered racism. White managers remained in place when her father bought the business from the Transkei Development Corporation (TDC).

“They were really so upset by these black people who had taken over this business, and they were just bullying everyone. So I was able to stand up to them and then I realized I’m actually smart, I’m actually not this thing that my mother was saying, that I’m not just smart, but I’m strong, I’m tough, I can stand up to these men during apartheid years and it was not because my father owned the shop, but it was this thing of suddenly discovering who you are for the first time and just waking up to who you are and suddenly knowing what you wanted to do. Oh wow, accountancy, I didn’t know about that,” she smiles.

She was also inspired by the fact that black auditors did the books for her father’s business. They were WL Nkuhlu & Co, owned by Professor Wiseman Nkuhlu. Her father supported her decision to study BCom and she enrolled at the University of Transkei (now Walter Sisulu University).

Gobodo became a star performer at university and her confidence grew. After qualifying, the university offered her a junior lectureship. While there was no racism in the academic environment, it was here that she had her first taste of gender discrimination. A male colleague instructed her to do filing. She thought this was ridiculous considering her position, and she refused. He treated her as an equal from then on. 

“I made a decision to fight the system differently,” she says. “I was sure there was no system that would determine who I am and how far I can go. I used to say this mantra to myself: ‘Your opinions of me do not define me. You don’t even know who I am’. So I never allowed those things to get to me.”

Early on, she already had a vision to have her own practice, so she was not distracted by her peers complaining while doing their articles. She was determined to take advantage of the opportunity to get the best training she could get. “Those guys never became chartered accountants, so it was a wise thing not to join them,” she smiles.

In 1987, she made history when she became South Africa’s first black female chartered accountant.

Working at KPMG, she grew to rapidly build her own portfolio of challenging assignments.

“It was my driving force right through life to prove to myself and others that there was nothing I couldn’t do. And for me, being black really gave me purpose. I can imagine that if I was living in a world that was readymade for me, life would have been very boring,” she says.

She was offered a partnership eight months after her articles. She would be the first black partner, and the first woman. It was very tempting. But she remembered her vision to start her own practice and taking the partnership would be “the easy way out”. 

So she moved on to the TDC, where at the age of 29, she was promoted from internal audit manager to Chief Financial Officer within three months. Again in 1992, she decided to break “the golden chains” of the TDC to pursue her destiny. But first, she restructured her department and empowered five managers; thoroughly enjoying the work of developing leaders, and setting the tone for the business she runs now – Nkululeko Leadership Consulting.

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 At the time, her father questioned her decision to leave such a lucrative position to take the risk of starting a business. “Everybody was so scared for me and was discouraging me. I realized these people were expressing their own fears. I have no such fears. And it’s not saying I’m not fearful of the step I am taking, but I’m going into this business to succeed.”

The best way to do that was to step into the void without a safety net. So, no part-time lecturing job to distract her from her vision. “If I had listened to them, how would I have known that I could take my business this far?”

She describes herself as a natural entrepreneur. Yet, the responsibility of leading a business is not a joke.

“It sobers you up,” she says. “You realize you have to make this work, otherwise you’re going to fail a whole lot of people. But when you have the courage to pursue your dream, things sort of work out. Things fall into place.”

Eighteen months into the practice, she took on a partner and felt an “agitation for growth”. It came with a “massive job” from the Transkei Auditor General, and things changed overnight. With only four people in their office, they now needed 30 to complete the assignment and they hired second and third year students who attended night lectures at the university.

“At that time, as a black and a woman, you had to define your own image of yourself, and have the right attitude to fight for your place in the sun. And I can’t take for granted the way I was socialized and raised by my parents. My father was such a fighter. And he shared all his stories at the dinner table. He used to say in Xhosa: ‘who can stand in front of a bus?’, so you just have those pictures of yourself as a bus. Who can stand in front of me and my ambitions in life,” she laughs.

This self-confidence, belief in herself, direction, purpose and her clear vision steered her ever further.

“Unfortunately, I had a fallout with my partner Sindi Zilwa [co-founder of Nkonki Inc, a registered firm of auditors, consultants and advisors], and that was a hard one, a very difficult one. I used to say it was more difficult than my divorce, because that happened almost at the same time. First, the divorce started and a few months later, I divorced with my partner,” she says.

“It was a lonely time. It is amazing that out of hardship, we find an opportunity to grow and move to the next level.”

She went on a five -week program with Merrill Lynch in New York in 1994. On her return, she saw herself being cut out of negotiations to establish a medium-sized black accounting firm. While these plans were scuppered now, her vision still survived and no one could take that away from her.

She approached young professionals who were managers at the big accounting firms in Johannesburg to join her. “But you can imagine, they were young, they were fearful. It took about eight months to persuade and convince them.” 

Gobodo understood their fears as she herself had to overcome her doubts about moving from a small community in the Transkei to the big city. But the visit to New York had helped her overcome her fear. If she could make it there, she could make it anywhere.

Gobodo Incorporated was established in 1996. It was the third medium-sized black accounting firm.

The others were Nkonki Sizwe Ntsaluba and KMMT Brey.

She believes that providence has always sent “angels” to her at the right time in her life. Peter Moyo, a partner at Ernst & Young at the time, gave his time and invaluable experience leading to the establishment of Gobodo Incorporated. Chris Stephens, who was the former head of consulting for KPMG, facilitated bringing a fully-fledged forensics unit to the firm. They took up a whole floor at their new Parktown, Johannesburg offices instead of the planned half-floor.

From a small practice in Mthatha, Gobodo Inc. grew to a medium-sized company with 10 partners, 200 staff and three offices – in Durban, Cape Town and Johannesburg. It was an exciting time.

Gobodo firmly believes that visions are not static. Once a summit is conquered, there will always be another one waiting for you.

The next summit beckoned her 15 years later. Black Economic Empowerment (BEE), a program launched by the South African government to redress the inequalities of apartheid, was firmly established and accounting firms were compliant, and Gobodo Inc. started losing out on opportunities as previous joint-audits done in partnership with the big accounting firms fell away.

She started talks with Victor Sekese of Sizwe Ntsaluba to merge the two medium-sized firms.

Again, people questioned the wisdom of the move. What if the market was not ready for a large black accounting firm?

There was somewhat of a culture clash when the “somewhat older, disciplined, bottom-line” Gobodo Inc. and the “younger, more creative” Sizwe Ntsaluba teams came together.  A new culture combining the best of both emerged. Ironically, while no people were lost during the merger, some were uncomfortable with the culture change and left. 

In the beginning, “a lot of sacrifices had to be made to make this thing work. Like the name. My partners were saying Nonkululeko’s name should be in front because she’s the only remaining founder,” explains Gobodo.

Sizwe Ntsaluba wanted their name up front, and it was a deal-breaker. She decided the vision was bigger than her and she wouldn’t allow anything to jeopardize it. The company name was agreed on: SizweNtsalubaGobodo. The business grew to 55 partners and over 1,000 staff. 

“I think we underestimated how hard it would be,” she says. “Mergers are difficult in themselves, around 70% of mergers fail. People were laughing at us saying ‘ah, black people, they’re going to fight amongst each other and fail’, so we were determined not to fail. Failure was not an option.”

When they did their first sole tender, “you could smell the fear in the passages. There was so much fear”. Then the call came from the chair of the audit committee of Transnet to say the board had decided to appoint SizweNtsalubaGobodo as the sole auditors.

Gobodo had led the way to the establishment of the fifth largest accounting firm in South Africa. Her vision had been realized.

“It was just so fulfilling, really so fulfilling,” says the grandmother-of-three. “So it was time to move this thing forward.”

 She was the Executive Chairperson and Sekese was the CEO. She commissioned partners to find the best governance structure for the firm. Their recommendation was for one leader to lead the firm forward, and a non-executive chair.

“That was going to be boring for me. If I was not going to be part of driving this vision forward, it was time for me to leave,” Gobodo says. “There comes a time that the founders must leave and hand over to the next generation.”

Although she had achieved her dream, it was not easy to let go. The separation took three months.

“I learned a lot about letting go at that time. We have to let go layer by layer. I had to accept that they would do what they had to with the legacy. And here they are now, having merged with Grant Thornton. The dream was to be a true international firm, and now with SNG Grant Thornton, it is still basically a black firm going into the continent. The dream does not die. This is still a black firm taking over an international brand.”

Gobodo now heads Nkululeko Leadership Consulting, a boutique, black-owned and managed leadership consulting firm. Here, she can live her passion for developing leaders. She also sits on the boards of PPC and Clicks. The future awaits her with more promise.

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Side bar: ‘The World Is Not Kind To Strong Women Leaders’

What were the greatest challenges she faced during her career?

“Making a success of your life in the South Africa of the past. As a black person, you always started from a place of being dismissed, as a woman, you always started from a place of being dismissed. So you had to be true to yourself and find yourself for you to be able to succeed. And that was hard. I don’t want to make it as if it was easy.

“The second thing was being a strong woman leader. The world is not kind to strong women leaders. And for me, being a strong woman leader was the hardest thing because both men and women don’t accept a strong woman leader. So you have this big vision, you are driven, you have to move things forward and if you’re a strong man, you’re accepted.

“But if you’re a strong woman, you are not. So you had to grow up and mature and try to find that balance of still moving people forward to achieve your vision, because I realized early that I would not get to the finish line without them. I could not leave them behind. So I always had to find that balance and sometimes, I didn’t do it well.

“Because there was this urgency of moving forward and you have to drag people with you. And they didn’t take kindly to that. Do I regret it? No, not really. I don’t think I would have achieved what I had. I had been given these gifts as a strong woman for a reason. I just feel sorry for strong women leaders, because it is still not easy for them today.”

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Forbes Africa #30Under30 list: Business, Technology, Creatives and Sport

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THE FORBES AFRICA 30 UNDER 30 LIST IS THE most-anticipated list of game-changers on the continent and this year, we bring you 120 of Africa’s brightest achievers under the age of 30 and for the first time, four categories featuring 30 in each: Business, Technology, Creatives and Sport.

From elevator manufacturing, solar energy design, to under-30s conquering the Alps and selling out the Apollo Theatre,  this year’s list demonstrates how enterprising and extraordinary the African youth is.

This list celebrates these pioneers who are building brands, creating jobs, and innovating, leading, transforming and contributing to new industries, in turn, changing the continent. 

“The future belongs to Africa and the future belongs to its youth,” says Jason Pau, Chief of Staff for International to billionaire Jack Ma, co-founder of Alibaba. He says the journey for young entrepreneurs, especially in Africa, is not always easy. Many startups fall by the wayside due to a lack of resources. In South Africa, it is estimated that the small enterprise failure rate is at almost 80% within the first three years.

Chances at success are very slim, yet Africans continue to see opportunity where many do not. The select few celebrated in this list represent those individuals who continue to persevere against the odds. It also serves as a reminder that it is possible.

“People don’t really give enough time or spend enough time in providing the right environment for entrepreneurs to grow,” Pau tells FORBES AFRICA.

So if entrepreneurship is the answer, ensuring that an environment is conducive for business sustainability is imperative.

Together with our audit partner for this list, SNG Grant Thornton, the senior editorial team worked night and day scrutinizing each candidate. For entrepreneurs, we delved into how profitable their businesses were and if they showed signs of potential growth and sustainability.

However, not only does the list look at the financial impact of each candidate, but also their reputation, resilience and ability to be role models to other young Africans.

For FORBES AFRICA, this meant endless background checks, fact-checks, emails, phone calls and research, sifting through over 1,000 nominations that poured in over the last few months. Lastly, the one factor that also played a role in the determination of the candidates was their online presence. Followers are a valuable new currency, and today’s achievers have found a way to leverage off them. This year, when FORBES named Kylie Jenner the world’s youngest self-made billionaire, it observed that her business was built mainly because of her social media and fan following. Many on our list have also been able to build on this in their own way. The creatives and sport stars lead in this regard.

This year, Sport is the newest category, opening up the list to the game-changers who are also Africa’s next generation of leaders. They have won awards, broken records, made social investments and pushed the boundaries by challenging the status quo on policies in sports. However, some of the challenges they still face include lack of resources, a gender pay gap, and an immense pool of untapped talent not yet given a chance to be in the limelight.

But no matter where they are from, these 120 list-makers share one common goal, and that is to build a better Africa.

Being an under-30 myself, I am proud to have curated the FORBES AFRICA 30 Under 30 class of 2019. At the time of going to press, all facts on the following pages were verified to be correct.

The list is in no particular order:


This year marks the fifth milestone annual FORBES AFRICA 30 under 30 list, and we have introduced a new category of game-changers. Together, they are 120 in total across four sectors: business, technology, creatives and sport. Meet the class of 2019, a stellar collection of entrepreneurs and innovators rewriting rules and taking bold new risks to take Africa to the future.

#30Under30: Business Category 2019
#30Under30: Creatives Category 2019
#30Under30: Technology Category 2019
#30Under30: Sport Category 2019
  • Words: Karen Mwendera    
  • Edited by: Unathi Shologu
  •  Assistant: Garreth Mtuwa  
  • Creative direction by: Lucy Nkosi  
  • Lead photography by: Motlabana Monnakgotla
  • Co-photography by: Gypseenia Lion   

Judges of the 30 Under 30 class of 2019

The category experts whose role it was to survey all finalists of the 2019 30 Under 30 list, rank them and provide commentary on each candidate:

  • Business: Anthea Gardner, Founder and Managing Partner at Cartesian Capital
  • Technology: Professor Tshilidzi Marwala, Vice-Chancellor and Principal at University of Johannesburg; he also deputises President Cyril Ramaphosa on the South African Presidential Commission on the Fourth Industrial Revolution.
  • Creatives: Yasmin Furmie, creative and business partner of fashion brand SiSi The Collection, South Africa
  • Sport: Nick Said, the Africa sports correspondent for Thomson Reuters
  • Audit partner: SNG Grant Thornton

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